Poll - Have you ever tried Menzerna Polishes - Yes or No? - Page 3

allen1124 · 09-27-09, 07:52

no i have not use the product-- but i will in the near future -do they have a trial size bottle?

Accumulator · 09-27-09, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Devilsown

PO106FF/FA was a gift from the polishing gods

Well, IME PO106FF was a gift with some issues attached, what with the weird concealing it can sometimes do.

RTexasF · 09-27-09, 03:42

After experimenting with many brands over the years Menzerna has been my only polishes for the last two. Not once has it failed to work perfectly. That is on all types of paints, colors, and in direct South Texas sun complete with high humidity. Preferred application is a Cyclo with orange/white pads depending on which Menz polish is being used and the situation at hand.

My thanks to MotorCity for telling me about it in the first place.

Devilsown · 09-27-09, 06:13

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Well, IME PO106FF was a gift with some issues attached, what with the weird concealing it can sometimes do.

Never had an issue with it, my minis paint is damn near flawless.

porta · 09-27-09, 09:19

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Originally Posted by wfedwar

It's not even in the states, yet...or at least I haven't seen it. Can you compare it with M105?

I have never tried 105, wich btw costs roughly $70 per 32 oz bottle in Sweden...

The new POS100 dusts less, is more lubed and gives a nice gloss.

Accumulator · 09-28-09, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Devilsown

Never had an issue with [106FF concealing], my minis paint is damn near flawless.

Cool, glad it's working well for you, and I'm not trying to stir anything up. It's just one product I'm a bit leery of based on first-hand experience.

In my case, the vehicle in question was done by a *VERY* well-regarded pro who's a member here. I watched holograms reappear months later while it sat unused in climate-controlled storage (the overlying LSP was still 100%). It was a) completely unexpected, b) surprising how severe the stuff being hidden was, I'm talking a *LOT* of concealing, and c) really amazing to me that the hidden stuff reappeared even though the LSP (476S) was still OK.

I sure never expected the situation to turn into some weird testcase involving 106FF, and, heh heh, neither did I expect to have to redo the whole thing over some holograms

Again, I didn't do the work in question, I don't use 106FF, I don't have a dog in this fight. I just know what I observed, and I post about it as a caveat to others so they can give it some consideration and perhaps avoid the surprises that I went though. IPA wipes come to mind...

shine · 09-28-09, 11:44

I have used Menzerna since I first got started in paint correction. I don't remember the last time I didn't use at least one Menzerna compound/polish during a multi-step correction detail.

Kahootz · 09-28-09, 12:21

I'm new to detailing and used the Menzerna line of products on my Audi. They work flawlessly and really got all of the swirls and holograms out of the paint with little effort! I got great results using the 4 bottle kit from Detailers Domain using LC Pads.

David Fermani · 09-28-09, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

In my case, the vehicle in question was done by a *VERY* well-regarded pro who's a member here. I watched holograms reappear months later while it sat unused in climate-controlled storage (the overlying LSP was still 100%). It was a) completely unexpected, b) surprising how severe the stuff being hidden was, I'm talking a *LOT* of concealing, and c) really amazing to me that the hidden stuff reappeared even though the LSP (476S) was still OK.

Again, I didn't do the work in question, I don't use 106FF

Thanks for the input Accumulator - What was the circumstances that you witnessed 106ff filling? I'd imagine that 106ff was used to correct too agressive of defects from the prior step? I personally love 106ff, but I know(and respect) the parameters of its use. It's basically a stronger version of 85rd which will finish just as great (when used properly of course).

Accumulator · 09-28-09, 04:35

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Originally Posted by David Fermani

Thanks for the input Accumulator - What was the circumstances that you witnessed 106ff filling? I'd imagine that 106ff was used to correct too agressive of defects from the prior step? I personally love 106ff, but I know(and respect) the parameters of its use. It's basically a stronger version of 85rd which will finish just as great (when used properly of course).

Yeah, I figure it was primarily a case of expecting the 106FF to do more aggressive work than it was able. I myself would err on the side of caution and restrict its use for situations where I'd already done most of the real work with something more aggressive.

Here's what happened in greater detail:

The '04 Yukon XLD (Carbon Metallic) was *awful* when I got it. Prior to applying PPF, my buddy (no point in beating him up publicly, I don't blame him. PM me if you want specifics) hammered it and then finished up with the 106FF. The overall process was something he had done many times (with no such issues) and that he continued to do. He LSPed with 476S. Looked close to OK by my standards, zero holograms, that's for sure. I figured I'd live with the residual marring until it needed rewaxed. Note that some light marring was *NOT* concealed, just the holograms.

I stashed it in my shop for months while I drove my soon-to-be-sold beater Blazer. Now and then I pulled the Yukon out into the sun for one reason or another, and while doing this I observed the holograms gradually appearing, after remaining completely concealed for maybe five months or so. By the time I was ready to put it into service after about seven-eight months, the holograms were really obvious and I had to redo the vehicle.

When I went to correct them, I found the 476S was still in great shape; I ended up compromising it because it was interfering with my polishing efforts.

I brought this to my pal's attention, and he subsequently started doing IPA wipes/etc. whenever he used 106FF. Not sure if he's still using it or not, but I suspect he has greater respect for the need to keep it in its niche and not ask too much of it.

David Fermani · 09-28-09, 04:42

Makes total sense. Thanks for sharing. Before this whole filling thing was brought to light, who would have known?

paintxpert · 09-28-09, 06:30

To David and all others...Some folks feel I have neglected to get back to them in a timely fashion...if this is the case it is only because I GOT VERY BUSY. If someone needs something as far as knowledge let it be said here ....YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO CALL OR EMAIL ME. I DO NOT have a cell phone because I dont want to be bothered when I am working. If you go to my photo gallery Advancedautopolishing.com you can see the vehicles I have worked on this year. If you goto merchantcircle.com you can see my reveiws. Sorry for anyone who misconstrues my intent on autopia.org. BenLeoneDetailer PS to answer your question.... I like Menzerna products alot I strongly recommended them in one of my FIRST POSTS HERE. Thank-you. Ben