The Internet's Junkman reviews Adam's Polishes!

[NSXTASY]

This thread is enough reason for me to never buy a chemical adams product. Truly counterproductive.

[DavidB]

Originally Posted by NSXTASY

This thread is enough reason for me to never buy a chemical adams product. Truly counterproductive.

Now I understand the Trucculent line

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Many members might need to know who you are as a detailer before they lend credibility to your statements. What's your background in the detailing industry and how do you think it will help this forum? Are you planning on being active in other sections of this forum? What was stopping you from participating up until this point?

I am a computer consultant by trade. My degree is in Electronic Engineering Technology. I was a SMT technicion for Motorola for years until I started my own company. My affiliation with paint comes from the 40 plus years that my father spent doing body work. I can tell you more about what a perfect paint job looks like than I can tell you about actually painting the car. My introduction into the car care industry started with Zaino, a quality product to which I had a good deal of success with (videos are on You Tube). As I got into more advanced paint care, I moved within the Meguair's line for resolutions with wet sanding and the like (videos on that too).

I started using the Adam's line for the simplicity and quickness that I could achieve results without having to choose between a multitude of products or follow an extensive regiment. Add to the fact that the product works and the customer service is top tier, it was a no brainer for me to join the Adam's family and show just how good the product is. Adam, who I occasionally work with side by side is one of the most outstanding individuals that I have ever met. I enjoy assisting him in promoting his product line

I now do all the east coast shows for Adam, as well as all of the big west coast shows. Any event that happens at Carlisle, Bloomington Gold and all the Corvette shows will find me there, as well as all the detailing clinics that I do all over the east and south (where I live). The last thing that I will do is list any credentials as I think that would be an insult to the people who actually do this for a living. I normally just make my videos and post my pictures as that is what got me where I am today. I will never know it all, and I learn something every time I touch my polishers.

Ironically, I never posted this thread here as I really never ventured to this forum but after I found this thread, I decided to join and at least answer any questions that may be asked about my process. Thus here I am. I am way too active on way too many other forums to spend any significant time here so I really won't be much help in other areas but that is why Dylan is here. He can more than answer any questions about Adam's products and has plenty experience with them. Anyone wanting to see just what I can do can easily venture over to the Adam's forum where there are more than a few threads with more videos of my processes. You Tube has all of my videos, but they lack all the info you need unless you read the actual thread associated with them. Those threads are everywhere.

Originally Posted by David Fermani

*Edit*
You'll be of much more use to not only Adam's, but to this community & detailing in general if you skimmed through these forums in search of people looking (and needing) help. Don't just keep your blinders on for Adam's related interaction. That will show us what the true root of your existence here is.

Thanks for the suggestion but again, I am spread pretty thin. I still have my own computer consulting business to run!

[mikegeaney]

Originally Posted by DavidB

Now I understand the Trucculent line

Wow! I had to look that one up.

truc·u·lent (trky-lnt)
adj.
1. Disposed to fight; pugnacious.
2. Expressing bitter opposition; scathing: a truculent speech against the new government.
3. Disposed to or exhibiting violence or destructiveness; fierce.

I guess them's fighting words...

My experience with Adam's has been very positive. I was introduced to the product line by a co-worker and have been happy spending my hard earned dollar(s) with them over the last 2 years. To me they differentiate themselves from their competition with their service, in addition to having products that I enjoy. I am not a detailer, just a guy who likes to keep his vehicles looking the best I can without having to pay someone to do it for me. The thing I like about the Adam's lines, and techniques shown by the Junkman, is that I can't really get myself into any trouble. I am sure that if I fired up a rotary with an aggressive polish that I would do considerable damage and rightfully so as I don't have the skills for that.

I enjoy this site and have been lurking for quite some time in hopes of educating myself as to proper techniques for basic things and to witness the brilliance of those applying their craft to some truly beautiful rides.

[David Fermani]

Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Ironically, I never posted this thread here as I really never ventured to this forum but after I found this thread, I decided to join and at least answer any questions that may be asked about my process. Thus here I am. I am way too active on way too many other forums to spend any significant time here so I really won't be much help in other areas but that is why Dylan is here. He can more than answer any questions about Adam's products and has plenty experience with them. Anyone wanting to see just what I can do can easily venture over to the Adam's forum where there are more than a few threads with more videos of my processes. You Tube has all of my videos, but they lack all the info you need unless you read the actual thread associated with them. Those threads are everywhere.
Thanks for the suggestion but again, I am spread pretty thin. I still have my own computer consulting business to run!

Thank you for your reply but no thanks for your prior offer of helping people with questions if you’re not willing to participate elsewhere (or really at any significant capacity) on this forum. Autopia is the most well known, most visited and largest auto detail related source of information available anywhere. Here you’ll find some of the most experienced, well seasoned Pros one can imagine in regards to over the top, no holds barred, striving for the absolute very best possible perfect outcome type results. There are not only members with real world hands on ability, but people with chemical/industry backgrounds in detailing. What will make this forum better is like minded members (like you) sharing their views on car care. What turns me off is another sponsor that sits on the sidelines whose only intension is to peddle their products. That tells me that they have no interest in the community and don’t need to expand their image to the masses. It is my opinion that if a detailer, of any capacity, chooses to limit themselves to 1 line of products this will surely do nothing more than falsely taint their possible outcomes. That being said, manufactures/suppliers/resellers visit this (and other websites) in search of making their products better by listening to & observing the opinions of people here (again back to the win-win outcome I mentioned before). Moving forward, by participating actively, you’ll more than likely be able to expand your horizons not only by making people more aware of your product, but actually opening up your current stance on results based processes/products. I have no doubt that you and Adams are a wealth of information, but why not open the flood gates of your knowledge and share this with like minded individuals from around the world? If you choose to avoid sharing your information with places other than Autopia, you not only cheat yourself, but the industry as a whole. Again, I mean no disrespect, but if one chooses to not participate, I choose to not do business with them. Thank you again.

[bert31]

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Thank you for your reply but no thanks for your prior offer of helping people with questions if you’re not willing to participate elsewhere (or really at any significant capacity) on this forum. Autopia is the most well known, most visited and largest auto detail related source of information available anywhere. Here you’ll find some of the most experienced, well seasoned Pros one can imagine in regards to over the top, no holds barred, striving for the absolute very best possible perfect outcome type results. There are not only members with real world hands on ability, but people with chemical/industry backgrounds in detailing. What will make this forum better is like minded members (like you) sharing their views on car care. What turns me off is another sponsor that sits on the sidelines whose only intension is to peddle their products. That tells me that they have no interest in the community and don’t need to expand their image to the masses. It is my opinion that if a detailer, of any capacity, chooses to limit themselves to 1 line of products this will surely do nothing more than falsely taint their possible outcomes. That being said, manufactures/suppliers/resellers visit this (and other websites) in search of making their products better by listening to & observing the opinions of people here (again back to the win-win outcome I mentioned before). Moving forward, by participating actively, you’ll more than likely be able to expand your horizons not only by making people more aware of your product, but actually opening up your current stance on results based processes/products. I have no doubt that you and Adams are a wealth of information, but why not open the flood gates of your knowledge and share this with like minded individuals from around the world? If you choose to avoid sharing your information with places other than Autopia, you not only cheat yourself, but the industry as a whole. Again, I mean no disrespect, but if one chooses to not participate, I choose to not do business with them. Thank you again.

Eh, I don't know if I so much care if a board sponsor does not want to venture outside of their area. I always keep in mind that by sponsoring Autopia, these sponsors keep the site free for us which I appreciate. A few boards I follow are pay sites because they don't have such sponsors.

By sponsoring the board, companies like Adams get the right to pitch their products which non sponsors would get banned for since that would be spam. If the sponsor wants to limit their involvement to their own area and helping posters use their products, that is their choice, I really don't care. I agree that going to other parts of the board would probably "get their name out more" but that is their call and I am not offended if they choose not to.

On a side note, I have always found Ashley and the rest of their customer service top notch, keep it up.

[BigAl3]

while Adams has products that quite a few people have had good success with (keep using them if you are happy), i have found other alternatives for less money money that do just as good as a job or even better. i had myself self-banned from their forum and do not wish to support or participate with them. the customer service IME, is okay - but i've gotten the best service from vendors like AG, Exceldetail, etc, etc. who knows, maybe i'll give them a second chance one of these days. but until then.. to each his or her own and support (the way you spend your money is a voice) what *YOU* like, *I* know what I do...

[Dylan@Adams]

Originally Posted by bert31

Eh, I don't know if I so much care if a board sponsor does not want to venture outside of their area. I always keep in mind that by sponsoring Autopia, these sponsors keep the site free for us which I appreciate. A few boards I follow are pay sites because they don't have such sponsors.

By sponsoring the board, companies like Adams get the right to pitch their products which non sponsors would get banned for since that would be spam. If the sponsor wants to limit their involvement to their own area and helping posters use their products, that is their choice, I really don't care. I agree that going to other parts of the board would probably "get their name out more" but that is their call and I am not offended if they choose not to.

On a side note, I have always found Ashley and the rest of their customer service top notch, keep it up.

Thanks for the kind words. Often times I don't participate much outside of our own sponsors section of the forum as I have been repeatedly hand slapped as (and I quote) "Your status as an advertiser does NOT give you free reign to post links to your products outside your product forum. Such posts will be deleted without notice."

Seeing as I am compensated by Adams for my time spent answering questions about our products and promoting them it seems somewhat counterproductive for me to be in threads discussing non-Adams/non-sponsor products giving them an endorsement. If I'm not free to post suggestions to solve a problem or answer a question outside of my own subsection of the forum it seems that my time is often wasted.

I will say that often times the general negative attitude towards Adams and the tendency for certain members of the clan here to jump on any opportunity to bash the line has driven any customers we do have here purely to PM's. I honestly spend more time here answering questions via PM for a collection of members as they are uncomfortable asking the questions on the open forum. They know, as well as I do, they most certainly will be bombarded by a barrage of negative comments or unsolicited advice on OTHER products.

Some of us have discussed this issue at great length and find its easier to simply conduct our conversations outside the general forums view rather than have to sort thru the static and negativity to get from point A to point B.

Now don't get me wrong, I think Autopia is an outstanding resource and an invaluable archive for all things detailing... but sometimes I think preconceived notions and the blind product loyalty have a tendency to alienate certain products/vendor/customers from the community thus hampering contributions from all parties.

[DavidB]

Originally Posted by Dylan@Adams

... but sometimes I think preconceived notions and the blind product loyalty have a tendency to alienate certain products/vendor/customers from the community thus hampering contributions from all parties.

That's true. That's also why the Adam's crew has been invited to participate in other discussions in a way that contributes to the community in general.

[David Fermani]

Sorry, but that's a crock of bull. If you can't find a topic about detailing (as a whole/in general) without pitching, defending or speaking about a product then I seriously question not only your integrity, but your ability. Bob from Danase & Patrick from Excel are perfect examples of someone who does this regularly and is a great contributor here in my eyes.

[Dylan@Adams]

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Sorry, but that's a crock of bull. If you can't find a topic about detailing (as a whole/in general) without pitching, defending or speaking about a product then I seriously question not only your integrity, but your ability. Bob from Danase & Patrick from Excel are perfect examples of someone who does this regularly and is a great contributor here in my eyes.

Now I never said I contribute nothing outside of product recommendations. I said that I am reluctant to post in some threads as its either met with unwarranted criticism or viewed a skewed info as I now operate under the Adams banner.

I'll remind you that LOOOOOOOONG before I was representing Adams here I was just another member... even at that point if I did make mention of the use of Adams it was met with a level of criticism and I'm not talking product recommendations in these cases, I'm talking general "I used this" statements in a before & after post or a "this is how I solved this problem" thread.

Don't be so quick to write me off from the community... I've been at this for 13+ years and have been published twice now with work in leading auto publications, not just prepping vehicles, but actual detailing articles. I'm definitely no slouch when it comes to detailing. I'll use this thread as a launching pad for a renewed effort to contribute more here, but you guys would have to understand on one level or another the disappointment of being browbeaten with the same tired comments time after time everywhere else on this forum.

[David Fermani]

Dylan – by glancing over the nearly 400+ of your posts, it’s as if there were 2 totally different people posting here from the time you were initially joined here 6/07 to 2/08 and then from 1/09 to now (120 posts). Since you joined you’ve made a very small hand full of non-Adam’s mentioned posts. What’s stopping you from going back to your old ways? That way people won’t have ammunition against you based on your Adam’s bias. There’s many here that don’t feel or avoid the need to mention product and can still get their point across in a helpful way. Again, I challenge you(and Junkman) to bring your non-branded, un-biased background & experience to the table and lets see what becomes of it. Heck, post some Click N Brags like you use to or some videos. You have nothing to loose and way more to gain.