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Originally Posted by Less
Basically for me, it comes down to this:
For me, I think ONR is the opposite. It costs more than traditional soap. It takes longer to wash (and time is money if you do this professionally). You have to be even more careful than normal. The margin of error is smaller. So I think that money/swirl ratio is going the wrong way.
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At $35 or so a gallon (I think that is what my local distributor is charging, I get 128 (give or take) washes. That is 27 cents per wash. It absolutely does not take longer to wash via ONR vs conventionally for me. Not even close. Once around the vehicle and I am done. No need to blow water out of emblems, crevices, etc either.
If I had to go back to washing cars the traditional way, using regular car wash soap and hoses, I'd find another line of work.
The polymers in ONR (or maybe something else in it) also add gloss and slickness regular car wash soap doesn't. Plus it keeps the paint beading. I have customers whose vehicles haven't been waxed in at least two years but have been regularly washed with ONR and they still bead and still have a just waxed look.
Apparently my customers are impressed too. I just detailed an S2000 for someone whose M5 I did about 6 or so months ago. Look what he had in his garage...
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If the same person washes 100 cars using ONR, and 100 cars using a traditional wash, I'll bet dollars for doughnuts that the ONR cars will have far more wash-induced marring than the traditionally washed cars.
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I'll take that bet and I'll give you my business if I lose. I'll also give you my car and my road bike.