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Old 11-25-08, 06:07   #231 (permalink)
Len_A
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Re: Should the government bail-out include domestic automakers?

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Originally Posted by JuneBug View Post
Len, maybe you should consider moving. I've got friends in Michigan and they all say it pretty much sucks up there. Did you ever think about it, cut your losses, quit waiting around for the guv-ment .I worked in a machine shop years ago and it was full of out of work guys from Michigan. They were good machinists when they wanted to be. But the problem was (is) that union mental illness they brought with them. I moved on to another job and after a few years - the one plant in the area, maybe the state that had a union was closed. Does that tell you anything? My Dad was born in 1909, he lived through the Great Depression and joined the Marines at the age of 32 to go fight in WWII, he made it home with a shattered left hand that was only partly functioning and that 1000 yard stare that was kinda creepy at times. But he wasn't one to sit and let the ship go down with him in it. He told me he lived out of hotels rooms from Florida to New York for years before he found a job that he liked. He was almost 50 when I was born and had settled down with a good job. He lived to almost see his 93 birthday before pancreatic cancer took him. He was a fighter till the end. I share this with you and everybody else with time to read it in hopes that it will inspire you and others. Times have been worse, and people have had far greater hardships.
Ya think I should consider moving?? Really? Ya think!!

Problem is, like I previously posted, we're not just talking about cutting losses. If I could sell this house tomorrow, I'd break even - if the city would sign off on the occupancy permit. They won't. All our homes in this subdivision are like 99% of any new construction in Michigan - they have basements with sump pumps. If those basements and the rest of the foundation settle and crack, and it shows any moisture, you have to bring in a basement waterproofing contractor like Insta-Dry Basements to correct it to prevent mold problems, or the city won't approve the occupancy permits. And all the municipalities have dug their heels in on this.

Long story short - we have to spend money we won't get back in the sale. We actually will lose money to move away, and we're not flush with cash.

Let even one of the Big Three file a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and property values tank even further.

Your Dad was one tough customer. I'm certain, from your post, that you're proud of him. That 1000 yard stare of his - that's combat. 'Nuff said.

My wife & I have had it with this area. Believe me, all we want to do is survive long enough to bail out of this. In the meantime, I want these Three Stooges to survive, so they don't cost me any more money than their problems have, not that all of their problems are all their fault. Just many of them.
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