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Old 10-27-08, 07:50   #266 (permalink)
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Re: Obama or McCain?

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What effect on the economy of the United States has the countless trillions of dollars paid to welfare recipients had?
Funny and so prototypically "republican" it is too easy to respond to. By in large, the USA gives lower per capita payouts in welfare to most of it western allies, you know what the result is? Lower crime, higher literacy, stronger public education etc...

However, that only tells half the story. It's not just about welfare payment being succesful, it's about a whole host of issues and since I am not party driven, I can hit them all. It's about funding education, but also about rewarding good teachers (notice, both ideas take from both parties).

It's about helping others out, so they can help themselves out. It's about society helping out one another while still encouraging personal responsibility. It's about using the strongest economy the world has ever seen to make everyone as succesful as they can be as a group. So the cures are neither on the left or right, the answer is taking from both, where appropriate.

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Does the economy "take off" when you "build it from the bottom"?
Yes, that is why consumer spending indexes are so important in our economy.

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Is that what history has shown us?
Yes, but you actually have to read it, not Newt Gingrich's "talking points".

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Only the deadbeats/truly unfortunate stay there forever.
Or maybe the blind, the old, the wounded and the addicted. We should just cast them all into a pit and "breed" success into our society.

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Unfortunately, welfare resulted in dads not living with mom and the kids, which has contributed to the crime debacle we have today.
LOL!!!

Yes, I can see in places like Sweden your statement is absolutely false. Let me ask you a serious question, Mr. 1948, how often have you travelled outside of the US and where? If you have (which I highly doubt), haven't you ever learned that sometimes others do things better than us?

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I'm glad your family did what my mother's family did....they all lived together, pooled their money, and took care of the family until they completed high school and got married to start their own families.
Yes and here I am today, not harping on "how great I am" and how "lazy the others must be".

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The fact that you "studied under the top professors" means nothing to me.
It wasn't meant to impress you, just to show you that you really don't have a firm grasp of some issues.

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The fact that Bill Ayers is ranked #1 tells you everything you need to know about college professors (the vast majority of which vote Democrat and wish for socialism).
Yes, because democratic socialism is SOOOOOOO scary. LOL