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Originally Posted by MSOsr
Is "Change" let's lose the war in Iraq?
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What does "win" mean to you? A proxy government in Iraq that further fuels the ire of the Muslim world? More dead Americans? I don't know how you are defining "win"?
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Is "Change" let's punish those that create jobs and instead give their money to those that only consume and never contribute?
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Trickle down/supply side economics... long debunked as mythology. You need new material.
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Is "Change" giving "tax cuts to 95% of Americans" when only something close to 50% pay taxes (I think the top 50% pay 96% of the taxes)? Are we just giving money, in this time of bailouts, welfare to those that don't pay taxes?
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No, we should keep giving corporate welfare, I'm much rather my tax dollar go the the AIG execs who can bang hot chicks on a cruise (on my dime) rather than the single Mom, with no healthcare and three kids.
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Obama wants to build the economy "from the bottom up". Have you ever been hired by someone who made less money than you?
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No, but when the bottom has no money, they don't buy goods, the don't use services and they don't put the fuel in our consumption driven economy. Bring up the bottom and you increase the top.
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It's great to say that everyone should enjoy the American dream, but it's more fair to make sure that everyone "shares" in the American dream.
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8 years of Bush has insured the American dream is only a fantasy. No need for most to even contemplate it for the next little while.
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Mike (has gone from "poor" to "the rich", but due to my own effort)
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Dude, when I was born I lived in a house with 16 other family members, out of necessity. We never collected welfare or food stamps but we got a lot of help in a lot of other ways.
I'm not so self-righteous to sit here and tell you I did it all because of my "own effort". I did it because along the way I had great (under paid) teachers, counselors and clergy. I had a "support system" that I knew I could count on in a time of need. I've also gone from poor the rich and would hope my tax dollars would go to helping other make that move.
There are a lot of people who put a lot of their own effort into this land and don't have much to show for it, so spare me the sanctomonious "everyone else must be lazy" story.