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Originally Posted by dave40co
The only one in this race that has been viewed as a "Messiah" has been Obama per his good friend, Louis Farrakhan.
American Thinker Blog: Farrakhan calls Obama 'the messiah'
Chicago "style" CHANGE
CHANGE CHICAGO STYLE
Body count. In the last six months
Chicago - 292 killed (murdered)
Iraq - 221
Chicago is a combat zone.
Who is in charge?
(The leadership in Illinois)
Senator Barack Obama (Democrat)
Senator **** Durbin (Democrat)
Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. (Democrat)
Governor. Rod Blogojevich (Democrat)
House leader Mike Madigan (Democrat)
Attorney General. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike), (Democrat)
Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of former Mayor Richard J. Daley) (Democrat)
Of course they're all blaming each other.
Why?
They can't blame Republicans, there aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago)
Sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look it up up if you want).
Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.
And he says he is going to 'fix' Washington politics?
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Where to begin? Let's see...
Looks like violent crime has been decreasing over the years in Chicago, while US troop casualties have been increasing in Iraq. So which one has the better track record? I don't have a doctorate in teaching Math, but I'm pretty sure Chicago wins.
Also, it's interesting how the tally in your chain spam e-mail doesn't account for any Iraqi or American civilian deaths. Hmm, I wonder why they left out that tally: I guess those "bodies" are unimportant and worthless.
But I'll play along. Let's follow suit and attribute all the "bad" statistics we can dig up on the United States to its current leader President George W. Bush. Or how about the fact that Palin is pro-Abstinence, yet she couldn't even handle her own teenage daughter getting pregnant. How's she going to handle America?
Sounds stupid doesn't it? Well that's exactly what the idiots behind that e-mail are suggesting. But I guess I can see why people would fall for this, seeing as they "refuse" to look at opposing viewpoints and act like sheep.
Now as for the rest of your brainwashed lunacy, I found that I was not the only one who thinks that so-called Chicago combat zone statistics chain spam e-mail is completely asinine. Since you probably won't take my word for it, I did some Googling for you, so I'll just quote these people and let the words speak for themselves:
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Originally Posted by intercedeGLI
VWvortex Forums: Latest FWD email from my republican buddy, Iraq vs Chicago
And what, precisely, does a Senator in the United States Congress have to do with making laws in Chicago?
He can't legislate more money for the police force, the local education system, urban clean-up projects, drug programs, et. al. that are needed locally. His job is to look out for Illinois with respect to national interests.
For 12,852,548 citizens in Illinois in 2007, there were 752 violent deaths.
For 6,338,755 citizens in Arizona in 2007, there were 468 violent deaths.
Take that for what it's worth.
U. S. Crime Statistics Total and by State 1960 - 2007
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Originally Posted by DIAF
VWvortex Forums: Latest FWD email from my republican buddy, Iraq vs Chicago
The idiocy in this thread is astounding.
Population of Chicago - approximately 3,000,000.
Population of armed forces in Iraq - approximately 140,000
Hmmmm, so roughly the same number of dead when there's 20 times as many people.
Good email buddy. good email.
Now what are the Iraq civilian deaths? Oh, you don't have that number?
Idiot.
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Originally Posted by guswilly
292 more killed in last six months. Iraq? - Topic Powered by eve community
To associate a United States Senator to the crime rate and school system performance of the state that elected them to the US Senate is quite ridiculous. A United States Senator is responsible for voting on national issues that come through the US Legislature. I certainly would never associate Senators Arlen Specter and Bob Casey with the murder rate in Philadelphia. That responsibility lies in the Chief of Police, the City Mayor, and the Attorney General; and none of those are positions ever held by Senator Obama. If you’d like to consider his previous position as an Illinois State Senator, again, look at the position. He was responsible for writing the laws and voting on the laws (a record which includes over 150 votes in favor of tougher penalties on criminals). The state budgetary issues lie with the Governor, not any one Senator; the State House only requires a majority to pass a state budget (generally around 60%). Others were hired and elected to enforce those laws, and have obviously fallen short of their goal. And the broad generalization of “no Republicans to blame” may be true for Chicago, but for the United States, we’ve gone from a tremendous surplus of cash thanks to President Clinton, to the largest deficit in the history of our nation under a George W Bush presidency, and Senator Obama has been consistent in reminding voters, John McCain has voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time.
There are plenty of issues with real substantive differences of opinion between the two candidates running for President, but the facts you’ve provided don’t belong on either candidates resume.
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Originally Posted by Amorphous Blob AKA Bolbsu Ohproma
Body count. In the last six months. Chicago - 292 killed (murdered)...
Oy. A US senator has no, zero, jurisdiction over the city of Chicago, and no influence on its politics.
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A US Senator can do nothing to affect the murder rate. People whose job it is to reduce the murder rate have not had much success either. "Clout" means political influence - are you saying that if he had exercized some political influence that he could have reduced the murder rate? What political influence would that be? By your logic, President Bush is responsible for the murder rate in Chicago.
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Originally Posted by The three cousins from the d
Body count. In the last six months. Chicago - 292 killed (murdered)...
Im pretty sure if you look for those stat every senator,and every other politicans have areas that are just bigger then them. Trying to pin a whole epidmic in Illionis on Barack Obama would be just idotic beacuse it's not Barack Obama job to police the streets he's not a police officer he's a senator all he can do is be like a coach and pass laws or call plays and hope those under him do what it takes to achieve his desired goal. So what im saying is even if Barack said we're going to make it a no murder zone it would be up to those under him enforce it but still the whole situation doesn't fall on his lap alone.
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Originally Posted by ugotthat
Did you know that more Americans are murdered annually in Chicago than in Iraq? - Yahoo! Answers
Since when does a State Senator control the police department of a city? Isn't that the mayor's job? Seems to me the Mayor of Chicago is responsible for reducing crime not the Illinois state Senator. Now if it's funding for the state that's something different
Just like Hillary Clinton is a New York State senator but Mayor Bloomberg is responsible for New York City, it's police force and ultimately crime reduction.
It's getting to be a bad habit how Republicans are banking on the stupidity of the American public.
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Originally Posted by darrin b
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Anyway, please don't insult us with your feigned intelligence and take your ludicrous chain e-mail spam elsewhere. You're not fooling anyone, anyone with a brain that is. Come back when you can think for yourself instead of echoing the RNC hate machine.
I'd welcome your next piece of propaganda, but what's the point? You don't subscribe to logic or reason, and it seems like you guys are just inciting others to get into a flame war and banned from the forums, kinda like the epithets being thrown around at McCain rallies, how funny. So that's it for me with all this election nonsense. We'll see what vision is in store on November 4th. Good night.