[judyb]

The problem here is that what actually does the damage to leather is the build up of dirt and oils which together with friction will break down the finish on the leather. Products that contain oils and waxes which cannot get through the finish on auto leather will remain on the surface and attract more dirt and oils thus in the long term doing damage. Hence the need to keep leather clean and protected. Therefore it is not particular products that do the damage but the use of them will not do the leather any favours.

Our background is as leather consultants and we are also trainers to leather technicians and specialists therefore we have an in depth knowledge of leather, its properties and the safest and most effective form of maintenance. We try our best to pass on good advice on the care of leather as this is part of our job as leather consultants and instructors (our main aim in the industry) and the products we do supply have been very carefully researched from across the world for the job they do. These are a mixture of products that have been proved over time to be the most effective. We are very genuine in what we do and have years of technical knowledge behind us together with on going research and testing.

There are several ranges of products that fulfill the criteria of fluorochemical water based protectors (most come from the furniture care products rather than the car market) and these protectors can easily be tested for their effectiveness.
I am as always here to give technical help and advice as we know the results that can be achieved and would like everyone to benefit from the.

Forums are here to try to help people with good advice on the probelms they have but it is always a difficult task when we are not allowed to mention specific products that have been well tested and proved by both leather scientists and technicians. I only wish I could help more.