View Single Post

Old 05-16-08, 07:54   #68 (permalink)
TH0001
Registered User
 
TH0001's Avatar
 
TH0001 is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Orlando/Oveido
Posts: 2,474
TH0001 is on a distinguished road
Re: Do you like Zaino ????

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post
Even on dark colors?
In terms of sealants, yes, even on dark colors. Infact I think a lot of bs gets spilled on here in terms of the actual looks of products. Perfectly polished paint should be so glossy and so close to its maximum potential that it should be hard to tell the difference between most products (IMO). I will say that on some black paints I find oil heavy sealants like #21 to look slightly darker (not deeper or glossier) but this only lasts for a matter of days.

The only problem I have ever faced with a dark color car and Zaino is on some GM black (looks bright gray in the sun) is that it can be too glossy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottwax View Post
Carnauba wax is blended with other products which raises the melting point (when applied to the car) sort of like how coolant raises the boiling point of water.

We regularly top 100 here in the Dallas area in the summer and even using carnaubas exclusively on the black 626 (that sits outside 24/7) I used to have, I never had any problems even when going 3+ months between wax jobs.

I regularly use both sealants and carnaubas on customer's vehicles and haven't noticed a difference between with two with respects to bonded contaminents. Granted, we don't have any heavy industry here so that may play a role.

I use Carnauba Moose (which is a liquid) more than paste carnaubas, CMW being a liquid carnauba may have something to do with it as well.

With respects to Zaino, I've always had good results using it, but IMO, Werkstatt is a better looking sealant (although I'd give Z5 a slight edge on solid black) and easier to use. Lasts every bit as long as Zaino does too, and that is based on using both on the same van that only sees tunnel washes. No QDs, no ONR, nothing. Both held on for a good 8 months.
In terms of the actual carnuaba content of the wax, yes it can be blended (and is) to increase the melting tempature, but most product guys I spoke to all eluded to the solution itself becoming unstable at 170 degrees. By 180 the actual carnauba flakes begin to melt and the product softens considerably.

I personally think Werkstatt is the second best sealant I have used and the best I have ever used when topped with a carnauba. I haven't tested the durabilty of the two side by side, but I wouldn't be suprised if it is very close.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wfedwar View Post
+1.

I've seen layering benefits from other products (e.g., Klasse), but never from Zaino. Maybe I need more Kool-Aid...
I have seen benefits, but they are not pronounced. I have also seen benefits from Werkstatt and Klasse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshVette View Post
The layering hype is not so much for visual improvement, it's a durability improvement.

The visual affects will be seen basically as the shine remaining for a longer period of time, but it will not keep getting shinier and shinier the more coats you put on.
I disagree. I think it does look better with more coats, but again it could be in my head. I have seen cars with 10+ coats of Zaino and they looked amazing, IMO.
  Reply With Quote