[weekendwarrior]

Man, the other thing that ticks me off, is I can't even get my oil changed anymore without that turning into an ordeal. The last 3 out of 4 visits to my Honda dealer has resulted in me having to take the car back.

2 trips ago, the automatic oil filler slipped out of the filler hole, and about 4 quarts of oil ran down my engine. Of course after the tech saw this, he just made sure to fill the engine with oil (thank God), but didn't bother to tell me what had happen, or to even clean it up. The next morning, I had over a quart of oil on my garage floor.

The last trip, they left the aluminum drain pan under the car (it is a magnetic channel that sticks to the egine block, snakes around the skid plate, and ends in a pan at the end to catch all the oil. Well, I get home, look under the car to make sure oil isn't pouring out like the last time, and I saw the pan still under there.

Sorry to thread jack, but I am just making the point that the quality of work you experienced seems to be the norm now days.